Y simple goal is to install common apps and use it, like I would use any other app.

I used cobo Wallet to receive my Lightning because from that wallet I can send back to my cold storage wallet without paying Lightning to onchain fees at least that is that moment.

I have tested wallet of satoshi and bluewallet those two were expensive not just because of the routing fees but because they take a cut about 0.3% just for sending receiving no fees unless is from chain to Lightning which is another 0.3% .

So both are expensive but are good for those that don't have time to setup even private channels, or just wanna test it.

Eclar mobile can't receive payments even if your channel is almost empty, but they can open a inbound channel to you for a fee.

Bitcoin Lightning wallet can receive but you have to use it a bit to make run but the fees are high about %.25 your node and channel is private, no custodian

Zap wallet on Windows setups private node and channels and fees are around 1 to 3 satoshis, but it is also node connect to depended.

I am waiting for for zap wallet Android and electrum.

In my last experiment I forgot to take screenshots to show proof that fees were low.

I will check to see if I can get that data out of zap

The conclusion that BLW is the most expensive does not make sense because BLW is non-custodial and you open your own channels.

So if you have a channel with an expensive peer then you'll pay a lot of fees. My fees range from 0 sat to %0.5.

So please share the same test results but with channel peers that payment was made over not wallets.

Of course in case of bluewallet and wallet of satoshi they charge the fees so it's ok to mention them.

I noticed something in my zap node proprieties, there is something call commit fee, for example I opened a channel for 0.005 but the channel total capacity is only 0.00490949 the commit fee seems to be 0.00009051 which results in 0.005, is the commit fee the same as let say the force close mining fees when closing the channel?

I have been testing zap wallet on windows, so far it seems it was a wallet conf that was making those outrages fees, I noticed that I could not send the funds in one single amount I had to brake it into parts, I guess the mobile wallet connects to high fees nodes but they deliver your payments fasts and in one single tx.

SO FAR IT SEEMS IT WAS A WALLET ISSUE FOR HIGH FEES, i HAVE BEEN USING ZAP AND NOW i AM PAYING ONLY 1 TO 3 SATOSHIS FOR TX, BUT i CAN'T SEND LARGE TX FOR THAT FEE. SEEMS LIKE LARGE NODES WITH BIG LIQUIDITY WANT MORE MONEY TO ROUTE.

I am in the middle of testing