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unmuted86 posted in Memes 2019-06-17T08:56:50.1330000

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Kingfisher - commented  2019-06-18T10:48:22.2870000

To whom is this addressed? People living under any form of organization? Or just people living in certain nations? Are we all supposed to rise up and shake off the yoke of our deceitful overlords and replace them with ………. What exactly? All governments engage in some form of deceit, from simple spin through deliberate omission to outright falsehood. The real question is the balance of these and the extent of it. Forms of government that feature regular free and fair elections and a free press are the best solution to Governmental lying. With those mechanisms the public can detect the lies and respond to them as they wish.  

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Unknown User - replied to @Kingfisher   2019-06-18T11:35:35.7800000

You would hope so.... In my experience most people are just too supid or to lazy to inform themselves, react, judge and then vote. Your last sentence is just how it should be but in most countries we live in a post democracy. No one has any solution yet... ( at least no real solution.....forbid voting for people over a certain age? forbid voting for people who are uninformed and/or have an IQ under average? All not legal but would be effective) maybe its time to turn back into a greek aristocracy?

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Kingfisher - replied to @Unknown User   2019-06-18T21:04:58.4770000

Education is the answer. I'm not talking about university. Just basic grade12 with effective civics, literacy, numeracy and critical thinking. Provide all of that to each child and you have a well functioning democracy. Some people think education is expensive. Its cost is nothing compared to ignorance.

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Unknown User - replied to @Kingfisher   2019-06-19T12:17:09.0030000

I disagree. Over 95% of the people around me have the basic education you talk about but I dont see 50% of them being interested of informed in everyday politics. I dont know why they vote.

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Kingfisher - replied to @Unknown User   2019-06-19T20:32:53.1370000

I wish I could say that all of us current Grade 12 graduates are well educated. The sad truth is a lot are not. Public education is generally woefully underfunded and in some neighborhoods the "schools" are little more than baby sitting services. I have been in the company of some of those and they are scary. At the other end, in well off neighborhoods the students are as educated as they want to be but sadly quite a few of them do not learn much because they do not value an education. Good education starts in kindergarten where the student is taught to enjoy learning. Follow that up with adequately funded teachers with effective student teacher ratios. Teach the students civics, literacy, numeracy and critical thinking then follow up with history, geography, philosophy and STEM. The first three teach the value of human beings, STEM teaches them to appreciate science. I am writing about our education system as it should be, not as it is. Fixing the education system is legal, feasible and will be effective. It is a much better solution than restricting voting rights.


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Unknown User - replied to @Kingfisher   2019-06-20T14:22:17.2270000
The school I went to did everything right. School is also what you make out of it. If you want to learn teachers will help you. Public school and still have a lot of ex classmates who complain about the school because they were too lazy (I was also really lazy in terms of homework but I never saw the school as a bad thing which I need to rebel against.... thats the main difference I guess)
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